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Sep 18, 2018Service Bulletin/Repair Instructions
A17-083
NHTSA communication ID: 10145389
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Service bulletin - The hood flutters or vibrates at highway speeds. Adjust the hood edge cushions to slightly touch the hood while still maintaining proper hood alignment. Inspect the adhesive between the hood skin and the support structure. Apply 3M ULTRAPRO Autobody sealant between hood skin and support structure if needed.
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Service bulletin - The A/C does not blow cold air, and the lower corner of the condenser around the receiver/dryer cap is stained. There is poor O-ring compression against the receiver/dryer barrel wall.
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Service bulletin - There is an incorrect software setting in the PGM-FI ECU that prevents the i-HDS from doing any of the following: ? Add New Key(s) ? All Keys Lost ? PCM Replacement ? MICU Replacement
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Servicenews article - Loose bulkhead cover latches and strikers can cause a grinding, rattle, flutter, buzz and/or vibration from the front of the vehicle when lightly accelerating with the engine speed under 2,000 rpm. This can also happen when shifting and may be mistaken for a torque converter shudder.
Source components: EQUIPMENT · STRUCTURE:BODY:HOOD · STRUCTURE:BODY:HOOD:HINGE AND ATTACHMENTS.
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Service bulletin - The roof molding front end caps become loose and lift away from roof panel. The roof molding front end caps are not held on securely.
Source components: STRUCTURE:BODY:ROOF AND PILLARS.
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Service bulletin - A judder from the torque converter lock-up clutch may be felt while driving between 20 and 60 mph. The problem is typically diagnosed as a bad torque converter. American Honda investigated the judder and found that the torque converter was not causing the judder and the transmission is not damaged by this judder.
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Service bulletin - A judder from the torque converter lock-up clutch may be felt while driving between 20 and 60 mph. The problem is typically diagnosed as a bad torque converter. American Honda investigated the judder and found that the torque converter was not causing the judder and the transmission is not damaged by this judder.
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Service bulletin - The roof molding front end caps become loose and lift away from roof panel. The roof molding front end caps are not held on securely.
Source components: EQUIPMENT · STRUCTURE:BODY:ROOF AND PILLARS.
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Service bulletin - The customer is unable to insert the fuel nozzle into the filler neck and fuel the vehicle in cold weather. Water or moisture has entered the fueling area and frozen the capless fuel shutter set in the fuel filler neck.
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Service bulletin - When adjusting the driver's seat height or tilt, the power seat does not move or moves just a small amount and clicks loudly during operation. The vertical transmission assembly (VTA) unit has a stripped internal gear.
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Tech line summary article - Loose bulkhead cover latches and strikers can cause a grinding, rattle, flutter, buzz and/or vibration from the front of the vehicle when lightly accelerating with the engine speed under 2,000 rpm. This can also happen when shifting and may be mistaken for a torque converter shudder.
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Service bulletin - The customer is unable to insert the fuel nozzle into the filler neck and fuel the vehicle in cold weather. Water or moisture has entered the fueling area and frozen the capless fuel shutter set in the fuel filler neck.
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Dealer message - Every Service Bulletin requires you to take an HDS snap shot and use the job aid or Tech2Tech to confirm the judder/shudder is coming from the torque converter.
Source components: POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:TORQUE CONVERTER.
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Service bulletin - While driving, the customer may experience flickering interior/exterior lights, multiple indicators coming on, jerky steering and/or other voltage-related fluctuations. The B+ sensing screw on the alternator is not torqued properly.
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Service bulletin - The MIL comes on with DTC P0430 (front bank catalyst system efficiency below threshold [Bank 2]). The PCM software may misinterpret sensor inputs as a deteriorated catalytic converter.
Source components: BACK OVER PREVENTION · ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:SOFTWARE.
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Servicenews article - We?re getting reports of reduced engine power with the MIL on. Service techs are seeing DTC P0369 (CMP sensor circuit intermittent interruption) and signs of excessive camshaft end play.
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Servicenews article - We?re getting reports of reduced engine power with the MIL on. Service techs are seeing DTC P0369 (CMP sensor circuit intermittent interruption) and signs of excessive camshaft end play.
Source components: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM · POWER TRAIN.
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Tech line summary article - If there?s an EVAP system leak from the filler neck (DTC P0455 [EVAP system large leak detected] or P0456 [EVAP system very small leak detected] is set), don?t replace the fuel fill pipe! Instead, replace the mis-fuel inhibit device and the main flap unit. Honda parts stock carries replacement parts just for this purpose.
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Tech line summary article - If there?s an EVAP system leak from the filler neck (DTC P0455 [EVAP system large leak detected] or P0456 [EVAP system very small leak detected] is set), don?t replace the fuel fill pipe! Instead, replace the mis-fuel inhibit device and the main flap unit. Honda parts stock carries replacement parts just for this purpose.
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Service bulletin - The MIL comes on with DTC P0430 (front bank catalyst system efficiency below threshold [Bank 2]). The PCM software may misinterpret sensor inputs as a deteriorated catalytic converter.
Source components: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM · ENGINE · POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:CONTROL MODULE (TCM/PCM/TECM).
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Tech line summary article - We're getting reports of reduced engine power with the MIL on. Service techs are seeing DTC P0369 (CMP sensor circuit intermittent interruption) and signs of excessive camshaft end play.
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Service bulletin - The MIL comes on with DTC P0430 (front bank catalyst system efficiency below threshold [Bank 2]). The PCM software may misinterpret sensor inputs as a deteriorated catalytic converter.
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Service news article - To prevent damage during shipping, leather-wrapped steering wheels come with a protective plastic covering. The easiest way to remove it during PDI is to grab the covering with both hands near the top of the steering wheel and pull it toward you, like you see here. The covering comes right off.
Source components: STEERING · STEERING: STEERING WHEEL/HANDLE BAR.
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Tech line summary article - The App Installer icon, listed under App List on the Display Audio screen, has drawn a few questions from curious customers. This icon is meant for future apps that may be developed. At this time, however, there are none available or any plans to develop them.
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Tech line summary article - If there's an EVAP system leak from the filler neck (DTC P0455 [EVAP system large leak detected] or P0456 [EVAP system very small leak detected] is set), don't replace the fuel fill pipe! Instead, replace the mis-fuel inhibit device and the main flap unit. Honda parts stock carries replacement parts just for this purpose.
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Tech line summary article - You may get a customer with any of these Apple CarPlay or Android Auto concerns: ? The phone won't connect to the feature. ? The feature disconnects. ? A Device not found or Device not compatible message appears. ? Control of the feature is erratic.
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Tech line summary article - If a customer can't hear the navigation voice when using Apple Maps with Apple CarPlay, an adjustment to the navigation voice volume on the customer?s phone should take care of it. This is something the service advisor can handle right on the service drive, so unless this doesn't work, there's nothing a service tech needs to do.
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Dealer message - American Honda (AHM) is investigating certain 2016-2017 Pilots & 2017 Ridgeline with a customer complaint of the front driver's and/or the passenger's window slow to open/close. To fully understand the cause of this condition, AHM would like to collect specific information from the vehicle prior to you attempting a repair of any kind.
Source components: VISIBILITY:POWER WINDOW DEVICES AND CONTROLS.
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Service news article - Are you looking at what seems to be a rear differential axle seal or pinion seal leak? Something to keep in mind: The actual culprit may be something loose or damaged above it. A loose or damaged fluid pressure sensor will drip rear differential fluid onto the axle seal. A loose fluid pressure check port will drip that fluid onto the pinion seal.
Source components: POWER TRAIN:AXLE ASSEMBLY · POWER TRAIN:DRIVELINE:DIFFERENTIAL UNIT.
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Dealer message - American Honda (AHM) is investigating certain 2016-2017 Pilots & 2017 Ridgeline with a customer complaint of the front driver's and/or the passenger's window slow to open/close. To fully understand the cause of this condition, AHM would like to collect specific information from the vehicle prior to you attempting a repair of any kind.
Source components: VISIBILITY:POWER WINDOW DEVICES AND CONTROLS.
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DEALER MESSAGE - AMERICAN HONDA (AHM) IS INVESTIGATING CERTAIN 2016-2017 PILOTS & 2017 RIDGELINE WITH A CUSTOMER COMPLAINT OF THE FRONT DRIVERS AND/OR THE PASSENGERS WINDOW SLOW TO OPEN/CLOSE. TO FULLY UNDERSTAND THE CAUSE OF THIS CONDITION, AHM WOULD LIKE TO COLLECT SPECIFIC INFORMATION FROM THE VEHICLE PRIOR TO YOU ATTEMPTING A REPAIR OF ANY KIND.
Source components: VISIBILITY:POWER WINDOW DEVICES AND CONTROLS.
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"SERVICE BULLETIN - A JUDDER FROM THE TORQUE CONVERTER LOCK-UP CLUTCH MAY BE FELT WHILE DRIVING BETWEEN 20 AND 60 MPH. THE PROBLEM IS TYPICALLY DIAGNOSED AS A BAD TORQUE CONVERTER. AMERICAN HONDA INVESTIGATED THE JUDDER AND FOUND THAT THE TORQUE CONVERTER WAS NOT CAUSING THE JUDDER AND THE TRANSMISSION IS NOT DAMAGED BY THIS JUDDER."
Source components: POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:TORQUE CONVERTER.
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DEALER MESSAGE - AMERICAN HONDA (AHM) IS INVESTIGATING CERTAIN 2016-2017 PILOTS & 2017 RIDGELINE WITH A CUSTOMER COMPLAINT OF THE FRONT DRIVERS AND/OR THE PASSENGERS WINDOW SLOW TO OPEN/CLOSE. TO FULLY UNDERSTAND THE CAUSE OF THIS CONDITION, AHM WOULD LIKE TO COLLECT SPECIFIC INFORMATION FROM THE VEHICLE PRIOR TO YOU ATTEMPTING A REPAIR OF ANY KIND.
Source components: VISIBILITY:POWER WINDOW DEVICES AND CONTROLS.
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TECHLINE SUMMARY ARTICLE - WERE GETTING REPORTS OF REDUCED ENGINE POWER WITH THE MIL ON. SERVICE TECHS ARE SEEING DTC P0369 (CMP SENSOR CIRCUIT INTERMITTENT INTERRUPTION) AND SIGNS OF EXCESSIVE CAMSHAFT END PLAY.
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SERVICE NEWS ARTICLE - THE ACCESSORY TONNEAU COVER FOR THE 2017 RIDGELINE ISNT WATERPROOF. WATER CAN ENTER THE PICKUP BED, RESULTING IN WET CARGO. WE CLEARLY STATE THIS IN THE USERS INFORMATION MANUAL. IF YOU GET A VEHICLE IN FOR A LEAKING TONNEAU COVER, THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR CUSTOMER THAT WILL HELP MINIMIZE LEAKS:
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THE APP INSTALLER ICON, LISTED UNDER APP LIST ON THE DISPLAY AUDIO SCREEN, HAS DRAWN A FEW QUESTIONS FROM CURIOUS CUSTOMERS. THIS ICON IS MEANT FOR FUTURE APPS THAT MAY BE DEVELOPED. AT THIS TIME, HOWEVER, THERE ARE NONE AVAILABLE OR ANY PLANS TO DEVELOP THEM
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TECHLINE SUMMARY ARTICLE - IF THERES AN EVAP SYSTEM LEAK FROM THE FILLER NECK (DTC P0455 [EVAP SYSTEM LARGE LEAK DETECTED] OR P0456 [EVAP SYSTEM VERY SMALL LEAK DETECTED] IS SET), DONT REPLACE THE FUEL FILL PIPE! INSTEAD, REPLACE THE MIS-FUEL INHIBIT DEVICE AND THE MAIN FLAP UNIT. HONDA PARTS STOCK CARRIES REPLACEMENT PARTS JUST FOR THIS PURPOSE.
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TECHLINE SUMMARY ARTICLE - ALTHOUGH SIMILAR, THE HONDALINK AND HONDALINK EV APPS AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON THE APPLE APPS STORE AND GOOGLE PLAY ARE NOT THE SAME. FURTHERMORE, EACH APP APPLIES TO SPECIFIC MODELS.
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Techline summary article - You may get a customer with any of these Apple CarPlay or Android Auto concerns: ? The phone won?t connect to the feature. ? The feature disconnects. ? A Device not found or Device not compatible message appears. ? Control of the feature is erratic. If so, there are some steps the service advisor can take right on the service drive that just might fix things.
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Techline summary article - If a customer can?t hear the navigation voice when using Apple Maps with Apple CarPlay, an adjustment to the navigation voice volume on the customer?s phone should take care of it. This is something the service advisor can handle right on the service drive, so unless this doesn?t work, there?s nothing a service tech needs to do.
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TECHLINE SUMMARY ARTICLE - SOME CUSTOMERS WITH SAMSUNG/ANDROID SMARTPHONES HAVE REPORTED THAT WHILE PLAYING PANDORA THROUGH HFL, A NO DEVICE CONNECTED MESSAGE APPEARS ON THE DISPLAY AUDIO SCREEN AND PANDORA STOPS WORKING. FROM OUR INVESTIGATION, WE KNOW THIS IS A PANDORA/AUDIO UNIT/AUDIO-NAVIGATION UNIT ISSUE.
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TECHLINE SUMMARY ARTICLE - SOME CUSTOMERS HAVE REPORTED THAT WHEN PLUGGING THEIR IPHONES WITH IOS 10 INTO THE USB PORT AND SELECTING PANDORA FROM APPLE CARPLAY, PANDORA WONT PLAY. FROM OUR INVESTIGATION, WE KNOW THIS IS A PANDORA ISSUE AND NOT SOMETHING RELATED TO THE AUDIO SYSTEM OR APPLE SOFTWARE.
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"SERVICE BULLETIN - THERE IS A CHIRPING COMING FROM THE ENGINE AREA WITH THE ENGINE WARMED UP. THE HIGH PRESSURE FUEL PUMP IS MAKING A CHIRP. NOTE: THIS NOISE DOES NOT IMPACT PUMP, ENGINE FUNCTION, OR RELIABILITY."
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SERVICE BULLETIN - THERE IS A HIGH PITCHED BUZZING/ALTERNATOR FEEDBACK FROM THE SPEAKERS WHEN THE ENGINE IS RUNNING AND THE AUDIO UNIT OR THE REAR BLOWER MOTOR IS ON. THE DASHBOARD WIRING HARNESS HAS INSUFFICIENT SHIELDING.
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CUSTOMER LETTER - LETTER ADVISING OWNERS THAT AN ELECTRIC BRAILER BRAKE SUBHARNESS WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE VEHICLE'S GLOVE BOX AND THE HARNESS IS INCLUDED IN THIS PACKAGE.
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TECH LINE SUMMARY ARTICLE - WERE GETTING REPORTS OF REDUCED ENGINE POWER WITH THE MIL ON. SERVICE TECHS ARE SEEING DTC P0369 (CMP SENSOR CIRCUIT INTERMITTENT INTERRUPTION) AND SIGNS OF EXCESSIVE CAMSHAFT END PLAY. FROM OUR INVESTIGATION, WEVE FOUND THAT THE CAMSHAFT THRUST COVER SURFACE ROUGHNESS IS OUT OF SPEC. TO REDUCE END PLAY, SOME TECHS ARE REPLACING THE CAMSHAFT THRUST COVER. BUT EVENTUALLY, THE CAMSHAFT WILL JUST MACHINE THE THRUST COVER AGAIN, RESULTING IN FURTHER EXCESSIVE END PLAY.
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TECHLINE SUMMARY ARTICLE - THE DOORJAMB LABEL AND THE OWNERS MANUAL LIST THE MAXIMUM PAYLOAD CAPACITY FOR ALL 2017 RIDGELINES AS 1,323 LB. THIS DOESNT MATCH THE ADVERTISED MAXIMUM PAYLOAD CAPACITY OF 1,584 LB.
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DEALER MESSAGE - TODAY, NOVEMBER 15, 2016, AMERICAN HONDA IS NOTIFYING ALL DEALERS OF A PRODUCT UPDATE FOR CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2017 RIDGELINE AWD VEHICLES DUE TO AN ASSEMBLY ERROR. ANY NEW OR USED UNITS IN DEALER STOCK MUST BE REPAIREDPER SERVICE BULLETIN, 16-102, PRODUCT UPDATE: 2017 RIDGELINE ELECTRIC TRAILER BRAKE SUB-HARNESS. REFER TO VIN INQUIRY TO DETERMINE WHICH UNITS IN YOUR INVENTORY ARE AFFECTED. AMERICAN HONDA EXPECTS TO BEGIN CUSTOMER NOTIFICATION IN EARLY DECEMBER 2016.
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"SERVICE BULLETIN - DURING ASSEMBLY, THE ELECTRIC TRAILER BRAKE SUB-HARNESS WAS NOT PLACED IN THE VEHICLE GLOVEBOX. THE OWNERS MANUAL INDICATES THIS SUB-HARNESS IS INCLUDED WITH THE VEHICLE AND IS USED FOR TRAILERS THAT HAVE AN ELECTRIC BRAKE. THE MISSING SUB-HARNESS MAY CAUSE CONFUSION AND POTENTIAL CUSTOMER DISSATISFACTION"
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Service bulletin - There is a high pitched buzzing/alternator feedback from the speakers when the engine is running and the audio unit or the rear blower motor is on. The dashboard wiring harness has insufficient shielding.
Source components: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:WIRING · ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING.
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TECHLINE SUMMARY ARTICLE - SOME CUSTOMERS WITH SAMSUNG/ANDROID SMARTPHONES HAVE REPORTED THAT WHILE PLAYING PANDORA THROUGH HFL, A NO DEVICE CONNECTED MESSAGE APPEARS ON THE DISPLAY AUDIO SCREEN AND PANDORA STOPS WORKING. FROM OUR INVESTIGATION, WE KNOW THIS IS A PANDORA/AUDIO UNIT/AUDIO-NAVIGATION UNIT ISSUE.
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TECHLINE SUMMARY ARTICLE - SOME CUSTOMERS HAVE REPORTED THAT WHEN PLUGGING THEIR IPHONES WITH IOS 10 INTO THE USB PORT AND SELECTING PANDORA FROM APPLE CARPLAY, PANDORA WONT PLAY. FROM OUR INVESTIGATION, WE KNOW THIS IS A PANDORA ISSUE AND NOT SOMETHING RELATED TO THE AUDIO SYSTEM OR APPLE SOFTWARE.
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"TECHLINE SUMMARY ARTICLE - WERE GETTING REPORTS OF THE AWD INDICATOR COMING ON AND STAYING ON. FROM THEIR BASIC CHECKS, SERVICE TECHS ARE NOTICING CORROSION OR MOISTURE IN CONNECTOR C601 OF THE REAR SUBFRAME SUBHARNESS. WERE AWARE OF THIS ISSUE AND HAVE IT CURRENTLY UNDER INVESTIGATION. WERE ANTICIPATING A SERVICE BULLETIN IN THE NEAR FUTURE."
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"SERVICE BULLETIN - THERE IS AN INCORRECT SOFTWARE SETTING IN THE PGM-FI ECU THAT PREVENTS THE I-HDS FROM DOING ANY OF THE FOLLOWING: ADD NEW KEY(S) ALL KEYS LOST PCM REPLACEMENT MICU REPLACEMENT A PCM SOFTWARE UPDATE IS AVAILABLE TO REMEDY THIS CONDITION."
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TECHLINE SUMMARY ARTICLE - DO YOU HAVE A VEHICLE WITH A TAILGATE THAT WONT SWING OPEN? WERE AWARE OF THIS CONCERN AND ITS CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW. FOR NOW, CONTACT TECH LINE FOR ASSISTANCE.
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TECHLINE SUMMARY ARTICLE - DO YOU HAVE A VEHICLE WITH A TAILGATE THAT WONT SWING OPEN? WERE AWARE OF THIS CONCERN AND ITS CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW. A SERVICE BULLETIN WILL BE POSTED IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
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"DEALER MESSAGE - CUSTOMERS ARE NOT ABLE TO INSTALL A TONNEAU COVER (PART# 08Z07-T6Z-100) WITH A BED EXTENDER STANDARD (PART# 08L26-T6Z-100) OR BED EXTENDER MOTORCYCLE (PART# 08L26-T6Z-100A) AT THE SAME TIME."